Sall Grover has said the day a court ruled she had discriminated against a transgender woman was the same day women’s rights, LGBTQ rights and freedom of expression “died in Australia”.
Ms. Grover is the founder of the app Giggle for Girls, which is marketed as a “digital safe space for women only.”
In August, Ms. Grover lost a case in federal court brought by transgender woman Roxanne Tickle.
Ms Grover had banned the 54-year-old from the app in 2021, arguing it was for women and that Ms Tickle is biologically male.
Ms Tickle has identified as female since 2017, undergoes surgery two years later and receives a new birth certificate proving she is female.
Judge Robert Bromwich ruled that Ms Tickle had been discriminated against and ordered Ms Grover to pay $10,000 in damages – a small portion of the $200,000 sought – and cover legal costs.
Speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Brisbane on Sunday, Ms Grover said gender ideology is taking away people’s rights.
“We are constantly told that trans rights are human rights, but human rights cannot be rights that take away the rights of others,” she said.
Sall Grover spoke at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Brisbane on Sunday and discussed the issue of gender ideology
‘It doesn’t work that way.
“It’s not just that they’re taking away our rights, we’re actually being forced to give up our rights.”
She said she never expected her app to be so confrontational, adding that it was bombarded with numerous one-star reviews after the Ms Tickle controversy.
‘We hadn’t launched properly yet, they said I was transphobic, (that) I was a TERF (Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist). “I’ve never heard that word before,” she said.
‘He (Mrs Tickle) would have installed the app at some point, I don’t remember but I would have seen a picture of a man and gone, ‘that’s a man’ and I blocked him, and I mean, I was right,” she said.
‘In a normal world we all live happily ever after.’
Ms. Grover said that to settle the lawsuit, she would have had to allow “all men claiming to be women” to access the app, attend sex and gender education sessions and moderate the app so that “men claiming to be women” ‘not offended’.
Ms. Grover is the founder of the app Giggle for Girls, which is marketed as a “digital safe space for women only.”
In August, Ms Grover lost a case in federal court brought by transgender woman Roxanne Tickle (pictured)
“So not only did they want to get in, but they wanted to control the environment while they were there,” she said.
“So I said no to it all.”
For Mrs. Grover, sex is a biological reality assigned at birth that cannot be changed. She is calling for this to be enshrined in law in the Sex Discrimination Act.
Ms Tickle’s legal team argued that sex and gender identity were not binary categories, but rather were partly social and psychological.
Ultimately, Judge Bromwich agreed, ruling that Ms Grover’s legal team’s argument ‘contrary to a long history of cases decided by courts dating back more than thirty years’.
“These cases show that sex in the ordinary sense is fluid,” he said.
Ms Grover appealed the Federal Court decision last week and has so far raised more than $200,000 from a target of $800,000 in donations from supporters.
The case is not expected to be resolved until 2026, but Ms Grover said she was adamant in her fight for women’s rights and freedom of expression.
“Women’s rights are slowly eroding behind the scenes and not getting attention,” she previously told Daily Mail Australia.
“It’s only now gotten to the point where I and so many other women have just said no, enough is enough.
“I’m being inundated with messages from ordinary Australians saying I have absolutely no idea this is happening, this is outrageous.
“When Australians wake up and realize what is happening, especially their parents, they are outraged and want to be involved.”