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MSNBC’s Ari Melber was shocked when Gordon Sondland, a key witness in former President Donald Trump’s first impeachment, said he planned to vote for the Republican nominee.
Sondland was Trump’s ambassador to the European Union and testified against him in 2019 when he was accused of holding up funding to Ukraine in an effort to pressure President Volodymyr Zelensky to announce investigations into Joe and Hunter Biden.
During a segment Wednesday night, Melber pointed to Sondland’s rejection of Trump in the wake of the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol and asked him if he still felt that way.
“No, I don’t support it and I’ll tell you why,” he said during a panel discussion alongside other ex-Trump officials, including Peter Navarro and Sarah Matthews.
“I have been living under the Biden-Harris policy for four years now and I have to say that it is becoming an existential threat not only to our country’s way of life, but also to our allies,” Sondland argued.
MSNBC’s Ari Melber (left) was shocked when Gordon Sondland (center right), a star witness in former President Donald Trump’s first impeachment, said he planned to vote for the Republican nominee
An angry Melber interrupted the ex-ambassador.
‘I’ll let you finish, but this is so striking. You then said, after January 6, that it was a ‘no for me’. And here we are now and you’re saying it’s a yes for you?’ Melber asked.
Sondland replied in the affirmative.
‘For me it’s a yes. For me it’s an absolute yes,” he said. “That’s how poorly the Biden-Harris team has continued their work.”
Melber continued to press, noting that “the whole point you seem to be making was that January 6 and that kind of attack on democracy is bigger than any policy.”
“I see so many attacks on democracy overshadowing January 6,” Sondland responded.
Before he could go into details, Melber asked Matthews for her opinion.
Sondland was Trump’s ambassador to the European Union and testified against him in 2019 when he was accused of holding up funding to Ukraine in an effort to pressure President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate Joe and Hunter Biden announce.
Matthews, a former White House deputy press secretary, is backing Harris.
She argued that she did not vote on policy positions this year because she viewed Trump as such a threat.
Sondland disagreed.
“Policy matters a lot,” he said. ‘Because policy translates into our way of life and the way our country operates.’
“What I’m saying is that what Donald Trump did on January 6 was not exemplary and I already said he lost the election. He should have admitted he lost the election and moved on,” Sondland said.
The former ambassador then argued that after four years of living under the Biden-Harris administration, Trump doesn’t look so bad.
“I live in the rural town of Portland, Oregon, which has been devastated by that policy. Absolutely decimated. Businesses are suffering. My own company is suffering solely for political reasons, and it’s all fixable and they don’t want to fix it,” Sondland lamented.