Ben Fordham left stunned as top professor exposes what Australia got wrong during Covid

A visiting British professor of medicine stunned radio host Ben Fordham by making a blistering target of Covid lockdowns, quarantine, masks and vaccines.

Angus Dalgleish, professor of oncology at the prestigious St George’s University in London and also a member of the European Commission’s Cancer Board, told Fordham Australia’s response to Covid was “absolutely appalling”, “madness” and “disgraceful”.

His unconventional views run counter to the Covid Response Inquiry’s recent assessment that ‘Australia fared well compared to other countries that have experienced greater losses of life, the collapse of the healthcare system and more severe economic downturns’.

But Professor Dalgleish insisted Australia was botching its Covid response.

He was also scathing of the British approach, saying that ‘Australia, New Zealand and Canada all overreacted in exactly the same way’.

“The only people who got it right in the long run were Swedes,” said Prof. Dalgleish.

“They had no lockdown mandates, they had no other mandates, the vaccines were for people over 70 and they have the lowest excess death rates in the Western world.”

Sweden relied on voluntary social distancing, wearing masks, working from home and avoiding public transport, with 80 percent of the country saying it was complying.

Professor Dalgleish attacked mandatory masks worn outdoors.

“That’s absolute madness, the only reason you make people wear masks is to put them in a state of fear,” he said.

‘I said right at the beginning: with the very best mask, the smallest hole is three times bigger than the largest virus. There is no science behind it.

‘You wear face masks in (operating) rooms to prevent you from coughing into someone’s stomach, which is not against viruses.’

He also believed that lockdowns achieved virtually nothing.

‘We know it’s respiratory problems, so lockdowns don’t make any sense, especially if there is no quarantine [which there wasn’t in Britain at the start of their lockdown]’.

He believed hotel quarantine was a ‘complete waste of money’ and didn’t think it ‘saved lives at all’ as it only delayed natural herd immunity, which was always the best defense against Covid.

“You get the virus naturally, you can build up an innate immunity to it, and they denied this,” Prof Dalgleish said.

Professor Dalgleish said he did not believe lockdowns, quarantines, masks or even vaccines have saved lives

Fordham wondered whether lockdowns were necessary to protect the elderly, but Professor Dalgleish said the Swedish approach was much more pragmatic.

“They say ‘your grandmothers and people are in danger, but be careful, don’t get too close,’” Professor Dalgleish said.

“They didn’t lock everyone up so society wasn’t strangled by the neck.

‘And that worked very well. Why did you have to lock up young, fit people who couldn’t work?’

He also denounced controversial vaccine mandates.

‘I think it’s downright disgraceful. It was totalitarian, it was a descent into an Orwellian dystopia,” he said.

‘Especially because we knew when the vaccines were rolled out, the virus had completely changed.

‘I don’t believe it [the vaccines] had some beneficial effect because the virus changes and mutates so quickly.

Sydney radio talkback king Ben Fordham was clearly surprised by some of the professor’s claims

‘We know that as our vaccine program was rolled out, the wave of infections naturally subsided. “No help was needed to quell the wave,” he said.

‘It was the same with the lockdown – we introduced the lockdown as the first wave was subsiding and if you hadn’t done a lockdown there would have been no difference.’

A clearly surprised Fordham asked Prof Dalgleish if he thought the vaccine had not saved lives.

“They arrived late and seemed to save lives because they came in on a wave of people coming in and dying,” he responded.

“Maybe it was very few, maybe less than one or two percent, but not significant compared to what they wanted to do with it.

“(That was) rolling them out to everyone and making vaccines mandatory when there was no evidence it prevented transmission, at a time when the disease was killing 0.085 percent of the population with an average age of 82.

“It was total blindness and madness.”